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Mar 15 / Greg

Mikrotik CCR-1036 – Cloud Core Router

The first announcement that I’ve seen so far from the European MUM is the new CCR-1036.

  • 36 core networking CPU
  • 1.2Ghz per core
  • 12MB on chip cache
  • Hardware encryption
  • 8 > mpps forwarding
  • 15 > mpps fastpath forwarding. In general, the passage from the input interface directly to an output interface, through the fabric with minimum modification at the output interface, is called the fast path of the router. wikipedia
  • Up to 16Bg of throughput. I assume this is bridging with no firewall.
  • Ports directly connected to CPU
  • 1U
  • 12 Gigabit ports
  • 4 SFP ports
  • Color touch screen display
  • (Image courtesy Honzam from the MTK forum)

    It pretty much looks like an 1100AH, though the specs are bananas.

    I know QoS is heavy CPU wise. Does this mean that all QoS will be processed on a single 1.2Ghz core or will it be multicore aware and distribute the processing? My guess is that it will relegate the processing to a single core, which isn’t the worst thing in the world…it’s just with the theoretical throughput the router can handle it would choke trying to do QoS on a single core with that much interwebs moving through.

    Can’t wait for more news and thanks for the tip Andrew!

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    1. J.J. Boyd / Mar 15 2012

      They have a price on this joker? Looks pretty sweet!

    2. Robert / Mar 15 2012

      Looks like a Tilera TILE-Gx-36.

      Some serious power for 24W!

      http://www.tilera.com/products/processors/TILE-Gx_Family

    3. Greg / Mar 15 2012

      @JJ
      Nothing that I’ve seen…

      @Robert
      Interesting! From looking at the specs it appears this proc can handle up to 80Gbps of network throughput.
      I see it supports I2C, which I’m assuming is how they are going to be controlling the touch screen LCD.
      Looks like the MiCA is the hardware encryption. I didn’t realize the hardware encryption would be built right on the CPU, but seems like a great idea to me.
      Also has 3 PCIe interfaces…I wonder if they will open this up for expansion at a later date? Perhaps for some modular interfaces like DS3 or T1.

      As a side note I would also like to see redundant PSU inside one of these chassis. I know it is probably a long way away or perhaps not on the roadmap, but redundant supervisors would be a plus.

    4. Greg / Mar 15 2012

      This is quite possibly the specific CPU http://www.tilera.com/sites/default/files/productbriefs/Tile-Gx%208036%20SB010-01.pdf

      Looks like this proc maxes out at 20-40 Gbps.
      It appears to have 4 network interfaces, each capable of 40Gbps.

    5. Tim Payne / Mar 15 2012

      Showing it is one thing, delivering it is another. Has anyone seen any 751G’s yet?
      Tik needs to work on deliverables first. That being said, it does sound awesome. Interesting, no switch chips…each processor handles it’s own ethernet port? Got to be some serious changes coming to ROS… I would be surprised to see this thing running before ROS 6.

      -tp

    6. Greg / Mar 15 2012

      @Tim
      I agree that we get a LOT of announcements and then we have to wait for the payoff. I love this newish direction they are moving…more towards routing platforms as opposed to just wireless. It’s no secret that I’m a wired networking guy, the wireless comes second to everything else for me.

      It is quite a departure with each interface getting it’s own core…pretty cool, though. I know the wiki article dealing with licenses is already mentioning version 7, so who knows 🙂

    7. Mike Hammett / Mar 16 2012

      For this to be really useful, it needs more SFPs and a 10GigE interface or two. This would go into a carrier hotel, have multiple GigEs to upstreams and then 10GigEs out to your network.

      I’m not sure what the use is to have 16x GigEs in one spot. What are you going to do with it?

    8. Greg / Mar 16 2012

      @Mike
      I can see using this as a core router in a colo facility. Each copper gig runs to a switch that terminates customer connections. Most colos hand connection speeds of 30Mb or less to each customer so this would work quite well.

      Two of these together running VRRP or BGP to the customer should work fairly well.

      When you say a 10Gb interface I have to think that most large organizations that have those kinds of throughput needs will also need support contracts on the equipment…which you can’t get with Mikrotik…:(

    9. Mike Hammett / Mar 16 2012

      Once you exceed GigE, you need 10GigE. 😉 Well, other than bonding, but that doesn’t always work right if you don’t have the same gear on both sides.

    10. Greg / Mar 16 2012

      @Mike
      Unless you have connectivity to multiple providers. In the datacenter game you always have multiple providers, though you usually also have multiple border routers too.

      If you are doing campus routing with heavy resource use on both sides, this would be useful also.

      If I was going to run a colo facility off of these I would have two of them cross connected via copper. I would then BGP peer my ISPs and my borders together. I’d then break out the internal connectivity via switching infrastructure to gain my additional port density.

    11. Mike Hammett / Mar 16 2012

      Right, I could see that being useful in a smaller colo. I’m going into 350 E Cermak where its more than 300 feet to anything.

    12. Greg / Mar 16 2012

      @Mike
      I can see that. If it were 12 SFP and 4 copper it would probably be a good compromise for a location like that. Although you can get a Cisco 355012G that will give you 10 fiber ports and 2 copper gigs for $419 from cablesandkits.com…this would give you the additional ports you are looking for.

    13. Mike Hammett / Mar 16 2012

      I was actually looking at an x86 solution to do many 10GigE, but MT won’t answer if they support the features required.

    14. roc-noc / Nov 12 2012

      They just released pricing and shipping info to distributors.

      CCR1016-12G is $645.00 – 16 CPU cores, 12 ethernet, 0 SFP

      CCR1036-12G-4S is $995.00 – 36 CPU cores, 12 ethernet, 4 SFP

      Shipping about the end of November 2012.

    15. Greg / Nov 12 2012

      @Tom
      And Tom swoops in with the answers! Thanks for the heads up sir.

    16. Ibrahim Lubis / Apr 10 2013

      Hi Greg,

      Im planing to buy this product for my company edge router, my company have 150 Mbps internet local and 155 Mbps International. I only do bgp routing in the edge router. What do you think ?

    17. Greg / Apr 10 2013

      @Ibrahim
      Sounds solid. You will be able to do ANYTHING you can think of…way more power than you need 🙂

    18. Ibrahim / Apr 10 2013

      @Greg wow that was fast reply, thx …

    19. Greg / Apr 10 2013

      😉

    20. Russell / Apr 11 2013

      I remains to be seen how well RouterOS will take advantage of boat loads of moderately clocked CPUs. I’d be real interested to see a thorough benchmark comparing the 36core CCR to a Intel I5/I7. Unless they really maximize all those slow cores. I see the TILE-GX series processor also has an 72core variant. and each of them have support for multiple SFP+ paths into the processor. When talking this much power I’m really surprised they didn’t offer a few on the 36core.

    21. Greg / Apr 12 2013

      @Russell
      They have recently announced a new version that has two SFP+ ports. I would be very interested to see a 72 core version that supports at least four SFP+ ports. I could immediately use a four port 10Gb router.

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